So I just requested an 'Anime Baths' wiki as a backup in case Watermaiden can't afford to run a private site in the future, and noticed it showed up in my log. So I thought I would check yours to see how long a waiting period I would have. According to https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Log/DeltaRuneFan2001
- You registered January 3
- You requested "Fanmade Show Foot Scene Wiki" on January 27
- You requested "Animated Foot Scene Wiki" on February 16.
According to https://animatedfeet.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=history the page was created Feb 16 so you got same-day delivery. Seems like great service around here!
All your requests were private:0 indicating anyone can view them. I am wondering if perhaps in the future we should consider doing a private:1 system?
If there are any objections to the hosting of content because of people lying and claiming it is "fetish" based, then if we simply privated it, people wouldn't be able to view unless they were members and I think that would cut down on the furor.
Um, ok. PS, because you are finding it too hard on to import all of the internet archive content, I know one alternative is to create a task at Phabricator, would that help it actually get to it? - DeltaRuneFan2001 (talk) 01:55, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
Users and images
- If you wanted to do it, then go ahead. Also can you add the images for all of the characters where named Stacy from the old wiki uploaded on to this one. DeltaRuneFan2001 (talk) 22:24, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
Importing the old content
Thank you for the bureaucratic rights! It looks like things are being built up from scratch here. To avoid duplication, I'm wondering if this is something we should put on hold before we can import what images were archived from Feb 22 and earlier at https://archive.org/details/wiki-animefeetfandomcom ?
People kept adding images after, I think we will probably lose those and need them to reupload stuff in the final month.
Sannse graciously extended the closure date another month, so it should happen by March 22ish. I am hoping in that time to move the userbase over here.
For that reason, even though I see someone added this to our home page, I will be changing the announcement to mention Miraheze so hopefully people will come over. However I would like us to be able to at least upload the February 15 database dump at https://animefeet.fandom.com/wiki/Special:Statistics
Actually I will request an updated dump due to the extended period so we can get recent conversations and at least the NAMES of recent files, if not the files themselves. User talk:Tycio (talk) 20:41, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
Uh, okay then. I contacted Miraheze just for the page transfer but it will only show the ones from February 16 text only. I haven't gotten around for them to take care of the images, but okay then. DeltaRuneFan2001 (talk) 22:55, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
- So have you figured out a way to import all of the content from Internet Archive? Because I don't know how to work it out. - DeltaRuneFan2001 (talk) 21:50, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
That's stage 2. A laborious task of stripping images out of a torrented database.
Stage 1 is much simpler: save the XML from https://animefeet.fandom.com/wiki/Special:Statistics (make sure to get the "Current pages and history" version, it was 17.4MB when I downloaded it. This is the TEXT and is actually much more valuable than the images because it gives issue numbers, page numbers, written descriptions, etc which we could use to re-locate images if we need to.
I tried to use Special:Import to add that here just now and received an error:
- Import failed: No interwiki prefix was supplied
I'm not really sure what is causing that. It is apparently nothing new, as https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Community_noticeboard/Archive_4#XML_Page_Import_Protocol shows someone was experiencing it in June 2018.
Please tell me if you get the same error and if you find a solution. Once we get that uploaded, the text source code from the old project will ground here, and then we can simply look at red-linked images and find them in the 60GB database as step 2. User talk:Tycio (talk) 02:47, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
Something was wrong when I tried to upload a file. Do you know what causing this?
I think you should ask Tycio, but I mainly think that Miraheze doesn’t enough file storage up to 30GBish. Although Tycio needs this website’s file storage to be 60GB.
Also I think I see the problem, not only it's file storage. But also if it was uploaded as Webp then here are some link to fix this problem: https://ezgif.com/webp-to-png https://ezgif.com/webp-to-jpg https://ezgif.com/webp-to-gif
Hope these could help you, if not, then ask Tycio, I think the problem is that Miraheze doesn't have enough file storage, but Tycio would however solve that problem we could get the file storage to 60GB, I don't know how the Internet Archive transfer going so far though however, that I have to ask Tycio about. - DeltaRuneFan2001 (talk) 21:15, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
- There, I did it. - DeltaRuneFan2001 (talk) 04:15, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delta in the future if anybody asks you to promote them solely on the basis of supposedly knowing or having been promoted by me (especially when they mispell my username...) I hope you will run that by me first. There was no editor named Kevbo182 on AnimeFeet.Wikia / AnimeFeet.Fandom (see https://animefeet.fandom.com/wiki/User:Kevbo182 ) so if this was one of my former admins, they would have gone by a different username. I'd be ESPECIALLY careful handing out bureaucrat rights. At the moment I think the only bureaucrats should be us two. Appointing admins are okay, but anyone with bureacrat rights is hard to remove from power if there is a problem, and they can promote other bureaucrats, de-promote admins, etc. User talk:Tycio (talk) 17:22, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
- Done it. - DeltaRuneFan2001 (talk) 04:15, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
Importing our history
This appears to have begun looking at https://animatedfeet.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Animated_Feet_Scenes_Wiki&action=history
Was this you, or someone else?
I am wondering if this is being done individually or in bulk. I haven't been able to bulk-import complete history as of yet due to the 250MB cap and because I can't access Phabricator.
Have you been able to get an activation e-mail from Phabricator? At https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Community_noticeboard#how_to_deal_with_.22413_Request_Entity_Too_Large.22_.3F I was instructed by Paladox to activate the service at https://phabricator.miraheze.org/ but did not get an activation e-mail.
I'm wondering if this is something someone else might have had success with, or if they are just manually importing pages. I'm not sure how to check the dates of when imports are done. User talk:Tycio (talk) 17:22, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
Verification of old wikia ID
https://animefeet.fandom.com/wiki/?diff=313048 is an example of the sort of messages I believe we should require previous Wikia/Fandom contributors to leave us to verify that they control a Miraheze account, either of the same or different name.
This is the sort of message I expect Kevbo182 to leave us, or else I'd like to know if you could find a way to de-crat them.
If we need to do this after Sannse deletes the project (we're 9 days past the due date, which I already had begged to extend a full month... but I'm not complaining!) then we can do it via messages at community.fandom.com or on any appropriate project managed by one of us where the use of message walls / user talks would not be considered disruptive.
I'd like to assume good faith, but our community suffered a lot of trolls from 2011-2019 and one might possibly try to impersonate a previous user, so we should not assume anyone is who they say they are without confirmation like this. User talk:Tycio (talk) 17:39, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
- Update: at https://animefeet.fandom.com/wiki/?diff=313049 I was contacted by Sonic879 saying they are Kevbo182. I promoted Sonic879 on 4 January 2019 and only removed admin rights to encourage people to come upload files at Miraheze, so I will unblock them and restore their admin rights. I would ask that you remove their bureaucrat rights (if possible) though, those should be given out extremely conservatively. User talk:Tycio (talk) 17:46, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
Ok. But just a reminder, I'm not sure about removing my bureaucrat rights because I already created the newer one, I've already gave you both bureaucrat and admin rights here as part of the original owner of the old wiki, I'm not sure if Miraheze could do that as Fandom could. It might not be the same but I could try though to do it on Kevbo182, so that only me and you could be the only bureaucrats of the wiki and the rest could be just admins. You could try to email Miraheze staff or Pharbitor for it. - DeltaRuneFan2001 (talk) 22:38, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
Just found out about https://phabricator.miraheze.org/T4166
I was freaking out because I couldn't get phabricator started (activation getting sent to junk mail) but you already had the ball rolling since March 2nd :) I will communicate there. User talk:Tycio (talk) 03:41, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
Where are all the images?
Delta, what's going on? Glad to see that a good number of pages have been moved to the new site here. Unfortunately, practically none of the images are visible yet. Any idea what's up with that, and when that situation will be rectified? Let me know when you get a minute. --Tdanielb (talk) 03:48, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
Well, Tycio has requested that the old sites content would be on there but since the transfer is taking too long. However, there were rarely a few images but some of these were mostly from new episodes/episode that have not been uploaded on to old site but uploaded on to here but however some people have saved some of the older sites images and pages, not all of them were saved before it hit April 17th, so are there any images you've saved before the old sitre was extinct, just asking if you did or not. - DeltaRuneFan2001 (talk) 03:58, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
I actually did Delta. I saved images of my 2 biggest contribution characters on the old site. Haruka Kaminogi, and Mayuko Chigasaki. Two heavy hitters in terms of foot scenes. --Tdanielb (talk) 03:26, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
Possible solution to getting back most of the former content
Okay Delta, Haruka and Mayu are done and I hope you enjoy having all those images back again. Now, I may have a solution to get most of the other images back. Now, most of the content from the old site up to Feb 24th can be retrieved on the 7 Zip file here: https://archive.org/download/wiki-animefeetfandomcom
It sounds large at 60 GB, but it's compressed to roughly 950 MB. Once downloaded, you would normally need special software to unzip the file, but there is a website you can use instead to retrieve what you want, when you want, without having to download a new program: http://online.b1.org/online
You can take out what images you want for certain pages, upload them to this new site, and then you can delete those files from your hard drive, so you will keep as much memory free as possible on your computer. Just keep the 7 Zip file to extract from until you no longer need it. I really hope this info helps you guys out. Good luck! Tdanielb (talk) 16:19, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
Ok, would want to see those again, I think I started asking them to do the pages first, but since Tycio took care of asking Phabricator for the images. But I still don't know how it's going currently. And yes these older images should be pretty much tooken care of by one of the staff memeber of Miraheze. But due its limitations, some of them is going to have to buy more file storage. - DeltaRuneFan2001 (talk) 02:28, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
10-4 there Delta. I'll try to contribute what I can on this end. I'm also a contributor on the Animefeet page on Blogger, and a lot of the images that were on the Fandom site were also usually added to the Blogger page simultaneously. The moderator of that page, KingsSideCastle, may be able to provide you some assistance and advice as well.--Tdanielb (talk) 02:48, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
chars / films / tvseries share the common element of being computer-animated, so they probably should share some parent category. Sometimes categories are just for organizing categories and not putting actual articles into. User talk:Tycio (talk) 19:22, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
Because it was a duplicate page of Makoto Kino. I seen it had the same info and in order for people not be confused with it’s same page, I’ll redirect it instead of delete it. - DeltaRuneFan2001 (talk) 00:15, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
re Akiko (Wishfart) I'm getting a huge sense of deja vu, did we not have a page for her before the wiki died? Seems it was recently created...
I'm wondering if perhaps I had just made a bunch of screenshots earlier this year (during a demo of Cartoon Network, didn't want to spend much time on the comp to maximize watch time) intending to upload them but never got around to it... meaning there was a bunch of stuff on a flash drive somewhere I think to supplement the great movie clip you had.
I didn't even know that she had a scene in the series until I saw some of the first episode. And yes the page was created on July 4th after the older wiki's extinction. The page was never on the older wiki during its run because no one has ever thought about creating her page while the older wiki was still around. I was originally going to plan on taking screenshots of the episode some time later. Also I added the link to the Youtube video of Akiko cartwheeling because I've added the extension to add Youtube videos, yes I got the video from Youtube since Miraheze has an extension that would support YouTube videos. Also I don't know if you still had some of the older images you had on your drive or not, but I'm just asking if you might have still have the images. Or did you ask Phabricator about the internet archive full download of the older site before its extinction. - DeltaRuneFan2001 (talk) 00:07, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
starting to love this place
Even though we might have to wait some time for Miraheze to have the space to fully recover our old images, for adding NEW images this place is going to be amazing. Miraheze has a multiple-upload feature (either "Drop files here" or "Select files", NOT "embedded file") which is actually a lot faster for constructing galleries.
- edit: oh wait it seems like that wasn't here automatically but you added it, NICE FIND. No idea why Wikia/Fandom never got that, far superior.
- the only possible tweak I could think to it is when it does insert a gallery it has "file:FILENAME" but I think galleries function here (like on wikia/fandom) without needing "file:" when calling upon the names in a gallery, so if we could omit that automatically it would slightly cut down on page size (obviously not significant since most space is taken up by images not text) but the main benefit would be more clear space in the source code to do things like insert image descriptions.
Since it also makes it possible to spam easier we should probably promote more admins to protect the place. Have you seen any other trustworthy users show up here yet? My memory is pretty bad for who we had as admins at the old place. I'd possibly recognize some if they spoke up though. User talk:Tycio (talk) 17:47, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
Yes, I made it look like the older wiki by managing the wikis extensions like adding the MsUpload and whenever you press and image it shows the photo and when you press any arrow button it moves to the next image just like the older wiki had. It looks really cool how I designed it to look like the flow of the old wiki. Also I definitely agree with you that they should fix the galley function like the "File:" in "File:Insert file name here" should be removed because that how our galleries worked on the older wiki, the newer wiki's files should have the galleries edited so then it would just be the same without the "File:" in it but at least uploading these newer images is better than nothing, although we prefer waiting for the older images. I also agree that we should save some space with some images in source code to that, in which speaking of which a user request me to slow down on my uploads as I pretty much go frame by frame of an image into a certain page. I think I remember and know some people that were admin on the older wiki so I'll promote them to the newer wiki like User:Myuacc1 for example. I've only token care of the source code from it's origination from the older wiki, and I've heard they finish transferring the text only, the full database download from internet archive still has the images and i haven't check if back Phabricator has token care of them. - DeltaRuneFan2001 (talk) 18:34, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
I was wondering, do you think we should possibly grab the shorter URL of "http://feet.miraheze.org" ?
Our scope has always been wider than anime/animation since it includes non-moving illustrations in comics and manga.
I'm not proposing we expand the scope to live-action feet, but I think as long as we are clear about our policy (drawn only) the short URL might work. Would be much easier to type in for people who use browsers that don't remember websites.
Doesn't necessarily have to be hand-drawn of course, CGI stuff is computer-drawn... but even then it's usually a hand guiding a mouse instead of a pencil so you could still say that. Something like "IllustratedFeet.Miraheze" would just be too long which is why I figure just 'feet' would do.
It's something I had considered several times at the old wiki but never quite got around to it.
Perhaps part of a higher efficiency rebirth?
Instead of "Animated Foot Scene Wiki" perhaps "Drawn Feet Wiki" but the URL being only Feet.Miraze?
- Personally I prefer if it was renamed to animefeet.miraheze.org in my opinion just to make the URL look like the older wiki. I named the URL "animatedfeet" but the problem is that I don't know if Miraheze could rename a URL or not best to ask them. Drawn Feet is a fine title but personally I'd like leaving it as the title is just to make it look like the old wiki. I agree that IllustratedFeet is too long for a URL, perhaps we should shorten the URL title to make it look like the older wiki "feet.miraheze.org" is a fine URL name but personally in my opinion think it should be renamed to "animefeet.miraheze.org" just to make it look like the older wiki. - DeltaRuneFan2001 (talk) 18:43, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
- Hey, it's fine. But don't restore Fluttershy i'm on a yacht.gif. There's already a gif, that I'd uploaded. Kevbo182 (talk)
- Ok, I’ll try to revive some of them. I already know that the gif of Fluttershy wiggling her toes is already uploaded and on the page so I won’t restore it because we don’t need another gif of that same file. - DeltaRuneFan2001 (talk) 02:28, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
Some examples that may not count
There are certain examples and I don't know if they count:
Thanks for thank
I remember wikipedia had the thank for edit featuer but Wikia/Fandom did not, it's nice to have it year, I think helps bond.
I don't suppose you've followed whether Miraheze has acquired new space yet? Not sure when to approach Phabricator for stage 2 of the import (images). User talk:Tycio (talk) 07:28, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
- I don't know if they have acquired more space for this wiki, hopefully they could buy out more space for this wiki site but most of them are pretty much limited so I think Anime Baths is being paid for so this site should do what Anime Baths did for more storage on there wiki. I don't know if anyone has token care of the images or not, right now it's just the source code without the images. A user might or might not be right about the file storage and he request another suggestion with the file, but I'd rather chosen to upload one photo by one individually. I did slow down on some of my image uploads just that one user request me to. I still haven't seen anyone do the images, maybe they have bought more storage, then I'll see if I could do the image import. - DeltaRuneFan2001 (talk) 21:00, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
My Pics of Andromon
Where are the photos of this archived even? I couldn't save them cause I assume when the original wiki was up, I would use the place to archive it but I guess not. I've found a very inactive wiki with originally two pages and I made it into a "safe haven" so that Wikia won't take it down. Also, I can't download that archived 7zip file of the wiki cause it's file size is too much.--ZD206 (talk) 18:21, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
I Can't Think Of 1
There's a free demo of YTV this October so I am finally getting caught up on Loud House and got to see those bunion-scraper scenes... BY GAWD. We must harvest animated gif of this... maybe even with audio...
I am thinking... would "characters who have moaned while their feet are rubbed" be too specific? I believe that scene would fall under such an auspice, since using a callus remover does rub the feet and I recall Sid saying "oh yeah" or something along those lines. User talk:Tycio (talk) 07:26, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
- I think it would count as a massaging scene but I’m not too sure if the category would work for the page, but since characters who have moaned while their feet are rubbed might be a better name for the category. - DeltaRuneFan2001 (talk) 16:51, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
Uploading the photos
I don't even see why that either, I think it's because Miraheze is just too limited meaning that most uploads won't always be accessed. I've tried to delete all of my frame by frame photos or Special:UnusedFiles but the only thing that had to be done is to pay for this site $100 permonth on Pateron but I don't know how to do that. I know that User:PaladinDeGigantas did say that I have to pay $500 which I'm not going even bother doing. But mainly User:PaladinDeGigantas gave me a suggestion to pay for certain webiste hosting service, I can't even do it because first of all I don't that much money, second the original wiki already vanished into thin air just like magic a while ago, third I don't have a job and I can't make any of that money, fourth I would have to finish school (just this year and then the next and then I am officially done it). So I can't even help with that, all I know is that you have to ask Tycio about why the file storge is just limited since he founded the original wiki. - DeltaRuneFan2001 (talk) 16:48, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
I don't want to be prejudiced but
regarding this when I look at the edits it's mostly non-humanoid furries like Odie the dog from Garfield and similar, and I have trouble becoming enthusiastic about that kind of stuff.
In fact, I think my tolerance for people adding that stuff is a large reason why the size of the old wiki got so bloated, and why it will take more resources for Miraheze to eventually port it over...
To see this filespace being taken up by this garbage... I guess I'm being prejudiced in saying that I hate it and wish I could discourage it somehow without imposing arbitrary lines of distinction?
This just feels like spam and like people might be posting it to troll us, and even if they legitimately want to post boring pictures of Odie's feet... I find it hard to empathize with the artistic merit of it? There's just so little variation...
What's your opinion on that matter? Could steps be taken to narrow scope in a fair way without actually excluding cute furry characters who should belong? User talk:Tycio (talk) 03:45, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
- I do agree with this matter it is complete trash and contains a lack of info of where the comic scenes are from also the main image on the Odie page is complete trash since it looks nothing like Odie's foot design at all. It's like clogging the wiki with messed up fan arts like the main profile pic. Feels like we should remove some of the pics on the Odie page that are lazy MS paint photos. - DeltaRuneFan2001 (talk) 04:28, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
Here's my thought... I don't want to go full "ban all furries" but... it seems to me that to be interesting, there should be some barrier of anthropomorphism in their appearance?
Language-wise can you think of a definition that would exclude Odie but keep characters like Cheetara included? Basically animals who still have human-like appearances? Garfield walks on hind legs but I don't think he's significantly close enough...
I just don't want there to be all this spam... it's probably going to use up our data allotments and push further-off the possibility of eventually importing our old stuff in. Higher-quality stuff that was the real heart of the place. User talk:Tycio (talk) 03:53, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
- The main picture is fan art and the actual image has him wearing two toes. - DeltaRuneFan2001 (talk)
I've run a thought forward on Phabricator and wondering what your thoughts are. Knowing we don't have room for ALL the former images (yet) if it might be feasible to do a partial input on the basis of trusted users.
Like for example (call it nepotistic!) if there was a way to restore all MY uploads (as I trust my own contributions), and then to come up with a list of users we recall having made decent-quality uploads (good filenames, good cropping skill, no upscaling or black borders, not too much superfluous repetition, etc) where as room comes available we could restore all their uploads next, etc.
We could also do yours too. In fact my guess is you probably uploaded a bit less than me so beginning with your files from the old wiki would probably be a slightly quicker/simpler process. You did get this Miraheze project up off the ground after all!
I believe this would partly require some advocacy from those users to trigger my memory, because I'm not so good at remembering usernames and user behaviors due to it being around a year since I had to deal with the stress of the shutdown.
One other benefit to that, is it could incentivize previous users to return to this community, to advocate for the prioritization of restoring their file uploads.
Despite some of the files already getting reuploaded from scratch, I haven't even sent Phabricator anything about the images. I told them to renamed the URL to the old wiki's URL just to make it like the older wiki. I was thinking that the site should be paid around $100 per month to make it look like we have enough room for the images on this site. Are there any email responses about editing the newer site from the users that used to edit the old site before its shut down? I've tried to talk to them in Community Central to go to the newer site but have little to no responses. - DeltaRuneFan2001 (talk) 00:28, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
Do you happen to recall what you enabled at Special:ManageWiki/extensions to allow where we click on a gallery and it previews the image (rather than going to separate page) and allows one to scroll through the gallery (zoomed in) by using the arrow key?
Yes I did and I thought that extension would look very cooler and much like the older wiki where it has a scroll to all of its photos as well. Thought that extension was cooler than what the older wiki had although didn't have an other photos section but it was still was an unexpected extension I found that looked cool. - DeltaRuneFan2001 (talk) 03:49, 6 December 2019 (UTC)